The MGE Trivia Compendium

[機械翻訳]

Apologies, I'm rather busy over the holidays and cannot check right now. Feel free to message me later if I forget to look again.

我只是好奇問一下，如果你在忙，可以不用把此事掛在心上，等你也有空處理也行
I'm just curious. If you are busy, you don't need to take this matter to your heart. You can just deal with it when you are free

[Perentie]

Size shifting magic:

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The magic pixies use to change size is something they naturally possess by birth. However, it is possible for this magic to be learned through training by other monsters as well. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Accessories and clothes worn when changing size also change size, and revert when the user returns to normal size. However, things put on after the size change magic is used will not change, and will simply fall off or become undone when returning to normal size.

Shape-shifting magic:

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Normally intense pleasure will cause the anthropomorphosis spell to be undone. However, there is a potion available and practical to find for monsters that enables anthropomorphosis to be sustained even during sex. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Anthropomorphosis is easy for monsters to use because they are all already "half human." Actually changing into the form of another kind of monster, however, is much more difficult. Making a potion or spell to enable this would be difficult, and maintaining the change during sex would be even more so. Lilim are the exception though, magic designed for them to use on themselves could enable things such as "lamia transformation" more easily because lilim naturally have the mana of all monster varieties inside them. It can be said that they are suited to such magic. That said, such a transformation is not an inherent power of lilim, merely something some individuals learn. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Boggleboe trivia:

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Boggleboe only form from the spirits of young girls, and their appearance is based on how they looked in life. Thus, the natural body of a boggleboe can't look like an adult. However, some girls do mature in appearance earlier than others, and in such a case a boggleboe with a more mature body may be born. (source: Personal communication with KC)

The stuffed animal that the soul of the boggleboe merges with is based on her own desires, so typically it will be of a cute or common stuffed animal is it is what she would be familiar with and like. Stuffed animal versions of snakes and spiders are rare, and so are boggleboe versions of them. (source: Personal communication with KC)

They are mysterious undead, as their humanoid bodies form from "nothing" instead of a corpse, and these bodies are more similar to goblins in structure rather than a witch or other majin. The reason for all this is secret for now. (source: Personal communication with KC)

The "blood" on the costume is her own mana and pheromones seeping out. (source: Personal communication with KC)

If she is separated from her costume she can still move it to an extent with her will (an example being using it to hold her prey in a headlock), but she can't control it as if it were a living thing. However, she can summon it to her side and put it on in an instant. (source: Personal communication with KC)

[Hinami]

The small nations around Lescatie were also dependent on it for protection, so they were not equipped to mount any armed response to the invasion of Lescatie and ended up continuing to be under Lescatie's protection. Spies from many nations were present in Lescatie, but most of them ended up entangled with or transformed into monster girls, again delaying other nations from responding.

I kind of like the implication that Lescatie was riped for invasion. Its isolation (military-wise), internal military disintegration, and heroes'' poor mentality, all likely make Druella (and Lilith, consider how cautious she is) confident that she can take over it within few days at most.

It also implies that Druella's force was still far inferior in numbers, and things might turn out different if Lescatie force can hold on longer.

[Perentie]

Trivia from personal communications with KC:

Angel reproduction

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While monsterized angels reproduce conventionally and have baby angels, it is unclear how the non-monsterized angels are born. No infant (non-monster) angels have ever been seen, and if one were to ask an angel or a valkyrie about her childhood, she would say she had none, and had always been herself. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Male angels and incubi

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While they have not yet been officially introduced, male angels do exist. They also can become incubi. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Kunoichi anatomy

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The blade-like projections on her head are indeed her succubus horns. She feels pleasure from them being caressed just as other succubi do. As for wings, in most kunoichi there is not a trace of them on their body, but there may be some individuals that have small wings. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Who can learn ninjutsu

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Ninjutsu can be learned by people other than kunoichi. In fact, kunoichi villages can also have monsters like inari and nekomata ninjas. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Doppelganger reproduction and transformation limitations

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Doppelgangers are born conventionally, and have an appearance that combines aspects of their father and their mother's original body. Despite not being born from unrequited love, they can still transform, and will take on the form of the ideal woman of the man she chooses to target. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Doppelgangers cannot transform into whatever they want, their change being dependent on what the man they target wants most. They can change into the forms of other monster girls, but there are limits to the abilities they can copy. A doppelganger for instance, could change into a normal cat if she took the form of a nekomata, however, if she took the form of a lilim she would not be able to use their ability to monsterize women into practically any kind of monster (as they lack the special mana combination the lilim have). As a rule, they can imitate abilities that can also be produced by general-purpose magic (such as transformations), but cannot use magic specific to particular races of monster or abilities that result from special factors. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Nekomata transformation

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The nekomata's ability to transform into a cat is instinctual, and they become able to do it right after they are born. However, in this case the cat they turn into will be just as helpless as their baby humanoid form, so nekomata usually don't start using their cat form until they have learned how to at least crawl. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Things incubi may inherit from their parents

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While they may have certain aspects relating to the nature of their mother (such as the gentleness of a holstaur, or the fierceness of a hellhound), what will be especially prominent in natural born incubi is that they have a likelihood to have aspects of themselves that make them ideal husbands for the race their mother belongs to, and in turn to end up marrying the same or similar kind of monster. A holstaur's son may have eyes that are especially drawn to large breasts, and a hellhound's may exhibit behaviors that fierce monsters find appetizing. Rather than the mother, it seems the father's nature/interests is a big part of them inheriting these things, and over generations it may become even more pronounced. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Mamono mana and restrictions on inflicting harm

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The protective effects of mamono mana are automatic, and when it comes to inflicting major damage they cannot be overcome. Humans have tried a number of times to use mamono mana as fuel for deadly spells or magical items, storing the mana via mechanisms similar to mana cages. They always fail, the energy becoming nonlethal. (source: Personal communication with KC)

The exceptions we see in various information relate to minor damage, and the mechanism is as follows. Namely, if a monster wants to bite or sting her husband, leave a hickey or other mark, then her will to do this overcomes the minute protective mana that would otherwise have interfered. Even then, a protective effect will still activate to prevent infection, such as with vampire bites. Further, monsters that use venom or poison injected via damaging the body have components in the toxin that stop bleeding. However, impossible as it is, if a monster desired to inflict major harm with her mana on a person, the protective effect would take precedence and turn it into a nonlethal spell. (source: Personal communication with KC)

So then how do we account for monsters using their powers to kill animals, or the Mamono Lord slaughtering the tentacle plants with fire magic and such long ago? It seems to be that the mana regards such uses as equivalent to targeting "raw meat" rather than a living thing. The exact mechanism is unknown, but it seems the criteria for this is whether or not the target of the offensive mana has a soul. Any tentacle plants, for instance tentacle brains, that had formed a soul or were in the process of doing so, would have not been burned up by the fire but had a different effect applied instead. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Perspectives and research on monsters of the previous era

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While it is not as popular a topic as studying the current monsters (and any researcher who takes a positive view of monsters will end up a wanted man by the Order, and married to a monster if he is not married already, so it can be a tough job) there some human scholars who study the monsters of the former mamono lord's era, as well as monsters who study their former selves. Hearsay from monsters still alive from that time, and various records left of battles between ancient heroes and mamono lords make it a worthy topic of study.

That said, in terms of casual conversation, most monsters do not like to talk about that era. Interestingly, this applies to monsters born in the current era as well, making it an instinctive dislike. (source: Personal communication with KC)

When it comes to actual memories, they can be hard to come by. Most monsters living today were born after the old era ended, and most monsters from the previous era were not sapient at the time and so remember little of it. As for those who were sapient back then (such as baphomets), they remember more clearly, and feel strong remorse over the things they did back then. It is something the husband of such a monster must do their best to comfort and support them over. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Undead and overpopulation

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While undead can choose to return to the cycle of reincarnation, this will not happen often enough to control their population. Instead, the solution to a scenario where these immortal beings someday become too populous (to where they run out of room or vastly outnumber other kinds of monsters) is that in such a case their combined mana would be so massive as to be capable of forming a whole new world for them to move the excess population to. A result may eventually be an incredibly large world just for the undead, or multiple smaller worlds.

A monster's sense of aesthetics and beauty

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While monsters can certainly distinguish what humans would regard as beautiful or ugly, they pay no real mind to it. Instead they make judgments based on the emotions and nature they are able to see in someone's facial features. They understand attractive looks and attracting the opposite sex even better than humans do but their values over this manifest differently.

When looking at a woman they judge her beauty or ugliness based on how well she can captivate her prey, and when monsterizing her they do not see it as making a ugly woman beautiful but rather enhancing her ability to captivate men.

When they enhance their husband's appearance (if he is indifferent to his looks) they do not do so with the intent of making him "more handsome" but rather "more impressive", or more socially favorable.

Further, while monsters can make judgments regarding a man as being "tall and cool" or "short and cute," these do not relate to them having any innate preferences for these features. For instance there are not monsters that simply "like muscular men." Instead, if they fall for a muscular man they are attracted to the daily effort those muscles represent. A monster that falls for a short boy will find his earnest efforts to compensate for the physical limitation attractive.

In accordance with this, they are passionate about helping raise their husband up to have the body and appearance they mutually desire. However, it is inappropriate to compare this to them seeking to perfect him or personally "build" him. This is in part due to their perspectives on time owing to their long lives. For an example, to a baphomet the man she chooses as her partner holds the same value whether he is someone who has spent 10 years to become a hero or who will spend 10 years to become a hero. She would equally cherish the 10 years of effort he made before they met as she would the 10 years she would spend nurturing his abilities. Further, if he cannot become a hero in 10 years due to lack of talent, then she can still make him her husband and they can work together to achieve hero status in another 100 or 1000 years. It makes little difference to her.

When it comes to objective viewpoints, they can perfectly assess that a face is judged as ugly or beautiful in human society, but to them that is just observing and stating a fact. It has no bearing on what will specifically arouse them or what they judge as attractive. To them the man they recognize as their husband is the most attractive male and in a unique, incomparable way. They feel attraction and desire based on the unique "identifying elements" that make up his being. They have a romantic sentiment "the person you fall in love with looks good to you!"

Indeed, it can be said monsters are able to see a person's inner being through their outer appearance. When a satyros says "your smile is wonderful" as a pickup line, she is referring to what she sees within the smile more than the smile itself, and how their life experiences have shaped that smile. It could be said monsters have no interest in the face on its own beyond using it for individual identification. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Vampire clans and customs

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Vampire culture is divided among different clans, each with its own distinct progenitor. Customs regarding courtship and marriage can vary widely between them. Some clans believe that as nobles they must maintain decorum, and will engage in indirect blood drinking and subtle courtship rituals (for instance they may give a man a cup and he will bring the cup to a party she is attending as a signal he has agreed to have his blood sucked by her). Others have a more beast-like approach, dragging a man they want into a bedroom or biting him as soon as they feel the urge, believing this impulsive behavior is the true etiquette of nobility.

Vampires may hold parties where they invite different clans to socialize. Of course, the main purpose of such events will be to show off and boast about a new servant who will eventually become their husband.

While the methods differ, they all serve to demonstrate noble pride. The "ideal aristocrats" uphold traditional values, while decadent ones see simply being able to indulge in life with their spouse as being a true display of affluence and power. Vampires that embrace their monstrous nature will readily show off their raw physical strength, while those that focus on magic will view scholarly pursuits as a noble pastime, and those rooted in a city may deeply believe in noblesse oblige, that nobility exists for the sake of its subjects. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Slime mate selection

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As old profiles, the slime's, red slime's, etc. can be a bit misleading. What they say is not wrong, but it is incomplete. Basically they only speak of one of the two means by which slimes mature:

1. The mother extracts semen from the father, removes the personal information in it, and gives it to the daughter (this is similar to how essence supplements work).

2. The daughter extracts semen directly from the father.

In the former case, she'll become independent and leave to find a husband, in the latter her "father" is her husband. Incest is not taboo, but still considered rare among most monsters, but slimes are an exception to this for two special reasons (slimes and red slimes are specified, but this probably applies to bubble slimes and other lower rank slimes as well). These reasons are as follows:

1. Unlike most monsters, slimes are born with lust/appetite and bodies capable of indulging in it from the start. And the male they first encounter will of course be their "father."

2. Due to reproducing via fission, slimes may inherit some or even all of their "mother's" memories and feelings. In such cases their mentality is similar to that of a queen slime, more like clones than mother and daughter. They consider themselves to be the same person, and so the man they love will be the same. Whether this happens or not is dependent on the daughter's will, if she recognizes herself as the same as her mother then her mother will regard her the same way, so it is always a mutual feeling.

[Zero_0]

Thanks Perentie, this is all so fascinating...
Especially this bit

So then how do we account for monsters using their powers to kill animals, or the Mamono Lord slaughtering the tentacle plants long ago? It seems to be that the mana regards such uses as equivalent to targeting "raw meat" rather than a living thing. The exact mechanism is unknown, but it seems the criteria for this is whether or not the target of the offensive mana has a soul. Any tentacle plants, for instance tentacle brains, that had formed a soul or were in the process of doing so, would have not been burned up by the fire but had a different effect applied instead.

IMO this is truly massive lore-wise.

[Hinami]

Angel reproduction

Interesting, I guess they are like pure elementals in a way.

[AmiRutberg]

Angel reproduction

Interesting, I guess they are like pure elementals in a way.

As far as I know, angels in MGE are created in the image and likeness of the gods themselves (And this is one of the reasons why they are naturally good hieromancers). So it makes sense that they don't have childhood.

Although some of them are resurrected from the souls of particularly zealous dead followers. At least that's what Eros sometimes does. (And Poseidon resurrected the mermaid princess in Court Alf.)

[Hinami]

1. The mother extracts semen from the father, removes the personal information in it, and gives it to the daughter (this is similar to how essence supplements work).

Hmm.... so I guess slimes can make mana supplement just like golems, but it's usually impractical since unlike mindless golems (give me impression that the majority of golems are never awaken and instead remain as mindless sexbots until they break down), a slime only take one man as husband. It osn't like she will give it up for anyone but her daughter, and the quantity of input would be far lower until her husband becomes an incubus.

[AmiRutberg]

1. The mother extracts semen from the father, removes the personal information in it, and gives it to the daughter (this is similar to how essence supplements work).

Hmm.... so I guess slimes can make mana supplement just like golems, but it's usually impractical since unlike mindless golems (give me impression that the majority of golems are never awaken and instead remain as mindless sexbots until they break down), a slime only take one man as husband. It osn't like she will give it up for anyone but her daughter, and the quantity of input would be far lower until her husband becomes an incubus.

Golems have runes that their creator can use to set their personality parameters. And succubi (or sabbath) who create golems to extract purified essence are unlikely to create mindless sex dolls. Have husband its one of their main function. In fact, their "factory default" personalities can be quite bizarre, vicious and depraved. "Oh damn, I forgot how much of a bad girl you were when we first met." User Lescatie Golem Inc

[Perentie]

Greenworm resurrection mechanics in a harem with a phoenix

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Monsters in a harem with a phoenix will be resurrected along with her and their husband. For greenworms this allows for a number of mechanics to come into play. For starters, if they were a papillon at death then they will revert to being a greenworm again. However, the abundance of mana that fills them in association with resurrecting means that if they want to they can immediately encase themselves, the phoenix and their husband in a chrysalis to become a papillon. Technically they have so much energy in this state that they don't even need to go into the chrysalis and can simply transform directly into a papillon, but they'll still do it because they want to enjoy the frenzied sex inside the chrysalis. As for becoming a papillon, they can return to their fully adult appearance immediately, or choose to be a "loli" papillon for a while. Their ability to store so much mana, and to alter their body with their will in various ways due to their unique biology is what grants them so much flexibility in how they develop when resurrected like this. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Glacies/Ice Queen distance feeding mechanics and information in mana

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The identifying information within essence is most concentrated in semen and saliva. It dissipates the further it spreads out, mixing with mana already in the air until the personal information is completely lost. So a glacies feeding on a man near her via the cold air method will get some of the information, whereas an ice queen feeding from great distances will get none at all. (source: Personal communication with KC)

More male angel information

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While there are male angels of the various ranks, they don't necessarily have the same names, nor are there male angels of every type of angel. There are male angel equivalents to valkyries, but they are not called valkyries. They have different roles, and rarely take on the role of being a guide for a hero. This may be due to how in the previous era almost all heroes were males (in the present era many are female), and so it has remained tradition that female angels guide heroes. When it comes to the angels of the main religion, i.e. that of the chief god, the ratio of male to female angels is roughly equal. However, there are no male cupids or houris. There are male angels who serve Eros, however, their roles are different from the cupids and houris. It is thought this is because women tend to respect the concepts of love and romance more. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Why monsters can still kill humans in self defense

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Despite the mechanics of mamono mana normally making it impossible for them to do serious harm to, let alone kill, a human, it remains true from the settings books that monsters can and do kill in self defense or defense of their loved ones. This has to do with additional settings and differences regarding when the automatic protection effects of mamono mana are applied, however, at the present time KC does not want to go into further detail on how this works. (source: Personal communication with KC)

Perentie note: To be clear this is pure speculation but to me it sounds like because it is a rule of the encyclopedia world that monsters love humans, the mana of a monster would never cooperate with the desire to hurt a human. However, if a monster girl needed (as opposed to wanted) to kill to protect herself or someone else, the mana may react differently.

Trivia summaries from Subscribestar Q&A section

Why incest is not harmful to genetics when with a monster girl

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In real world biology incest causes harm due to the likelihood of related creatures having problematic genes in common, but the genetics of monster girls and humans are very different. Indeed, the mechanisms allowing them to interbreed in the first place and how genetic inheritance works are very different from interbreeding within the same species. There is also the magical aspects to it, such as mamono mana being linked to all other mamono mana via the mamono lord meaning that it has all the information needed to compensate for any loss in genetic diversity. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Sabbath criteria

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While you are in theory supposed to take on a juvenile form when joining a Sabbath, in practice the criteria for acceptance into a specific Sabbath varies from one to the next. Often a girl will be accepted even if she is not flat-chested, so long as she is or becomes lolita in other aspects. Further, the Greilia and Runya Runya Sabbaths have some members who are outright adult women in appearance, as their focuses prioritize things other than being loli. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Demon contracts and harems

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While whether it happens or not depends on the personality and preferences of the demon and the harem itself, a demon's contract can be formed with other members of the harem if they agree to it. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Chimaera combinations and rules

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A "dark beast" is defined as a monster that has elements of real animals. Most chimaeras are combinations of reptiles and mammals, followed by birds, fish, insects, etc. in increasing rarity. Using non-dark beasts (such as slimes or fiends) is possible, but very difficult and so chimaeras that incorporate such combinations are rare. Even rarer and more difficult are ones that are made from living masses of mana such as dark matter and other elementals. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Normal dragons are typically used for creating chimaeras, but malef dragon is also an option (the question was specifically if a malef dragon could work, so other dragons were not mentioned). (source: Subscribestar reply)

Dark elf males

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No dark elf males are born in the current era, as every female became monsterized long ago. That said, thanks to the long lifespans of elves, there are male dark elves still alive in the present, born in the previous era. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Elf reproduction in the future

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When elves become able to birth incubi, the boy born will either have strong human characteristics, strong elf characteristics, or be an even mix of human/elf. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Which undead can "evolve" into higher rank monsters

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Lower rank undead tend to be the only kind that can "evolve." However, it is not because they are low rank, but rather due to their history. In the previous era, zombies, ghosts and skeletons, etc. were just the dead being forced to move about. They were not actual races of monsters, or even lifeforms. While they did become lifeforms in the current era, it could be they are in a sense still "incomplete" and existing in a transitional state like a lesser succubus, becoming "complete" once they accumulate enough mana. In contrast, races like the vampire were already "complete" in the previous era as a race and may need no further changes. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Examples of average monster heights, "average" meaning there will be a fair number of outliers:

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Anubis: Close to average human male height.

Manticore: Close to average human male height.

Hellhound: Taller than average human male.

Jinko: Taller than average human male.

Troll: Taller than average human male.

(source: Subscribestar reply)

Atlach-nacha's transformed husband's eyes

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While all the luminous red objects on his body function as eyes, they do not all see the same way. The main eyes on his face and the pincer horns (jaws) see a clear image like human eyes. While not visible on the illustration, the eyes on the horns can also see the back of the wife, and their angle allows him to see the front of her too, which is a blindspot for the eyes on his head when they are having sex. However, the eyes on the rest of the spider's body and legs do not produce clear images, instead detecting light, body heat, mana, and the presence and general shape of objects. They are used mostly to detect prey in the web, or to allow the couple to survey the entire web when they are building it. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Why husbands of abyssal monsters won't choose to remain in human form all the time

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While she would find it embarrassing, an abyssal monster would not be averse to her husband always being in human form, including during sex. It is not at all inferior, and in the case of the atlach-nacha her toxin can be neutralized by the husband even in human form. In theory he could stay in human form all the time, as he can transform at will. However, as a married couple this would not be enough. It is the husband's responsibility to fulfill her desire to spend time in intercourse with his transformed state, and from his perspective to never do this would be like choosing to not breathe. He would eventually not be able to help himself. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Dragon husbands

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Dragon husbands tend to gain stronger bodies, like heroes of myth who became immortal from bathing in dragon blood. They also gain resistance to the element of the breath weapon his wife uses. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Honey Bee fertility

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While they are initially infertile, worker bees can gain reproductive ability by mating a lot and accumulating mana. Most will have regular fertility, but a rare few will have high fertility and become independent as candidates for new queen bees. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Amazoness and their uniqueness

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While many monsters partially reverse typical gender roles, the amazoness are the only ones who completely do this as a society. Even monsters who typically take the aggressive lead in courtship or act as a man's protector will still see a man who does it as manly for doing so, so their views on men are not completely reversed. Amazoness though would see a tough and strong man as attractive for being tough and strong even though they are a man, similar to how real world men may admire strong women. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Selkie pelts

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Just as we are typically born with little hair, when a selkie is born she has no pelt at all, but it appears on her body before long and grows along with her. When not wearing the pelt they are very difficult to tell apart from humans. Their ears, while not visible in the profile illustration, are rounded just like a human's. (source: Subscribestar reply)

Enma the lilim

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Enma was born during one of many honeymoons the mamono lord and her husband have had (it's not know what number this one was). The honeymoon was in Zipangu, and Enma was born and raised there. This caused her to be greatly influenced by the cultural styles and values of Zipangu. Lilim rooted in specific places like this often have values and aesthetics associated with those places. This does not mean there is a lilim for every part of the world though, as there are only so many lilim. (source: Subscribestar reply)